Upton Group Practice

                   

Wirral GPCC Patient Council                                                 

 

Friday 10th December 2010, 7pm

Birkenhead Medical Building

 

Agenda

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Note

1.

Welcome and Introductions

Dr Oates and Dr Mantgani welcomed all representatives to the meeting, which included:

-          More than 25 GPCC patients

-          GPCC Practice staff: Dr Oates, Dr Quinn, Dr Srivastava, Karen Hornby

-          NHS Wirral Chief Executive, Kathy Doran

-          NHS Wirral Director of Engagement, Martin McEwan

-          NHS Wirral Head of Birkenhead Locality, Paul Edwards

-          NHS Wirral Deputy Head of Locality, Christine Campbell

-          Representatives from Wirral LINK and VCAW

 

Eddy Shallcross was introduced as the Chair of the Patient Council.  Eddy is very experienced as a patient representative and has had a wide variety of experience within the healthcare sector, both as an employee and as a volunteer.

 

2.

Presentation – Overview of Wirral GPCC

 

 Dr Mantgani gave a presentation in which he explained an overview of GP Commissioning Consortia, along with the role of the patient in the new NHS.  This presentation is circulated along with these minutes.

 

3.

Address from Frank Field, MP

 

Frank Field addressed the Council, highlighting the importance of the patient’s voice in the new commissioning arrangements, and expressing confidence that the GPs within the GPCC would have the commitment and experience to take the group forward successfully.

 

4.

Questions and Answers

 

Eddy Shallcross, Chair, opened the floor to questions and answers.  These are summarised as follows (patients’ voice (P) is in blue, whilst the GPCC’s responses are given in green):

 

-          (P) the views and needs of carers need to be taken into account

 

-          (P) smoking cessation services must be considered alongside the development of services for the treatment of alcohol and drug addiction

-          (GPCC) the PCT has already invested significantly in both health promotion (ie preventing people from smoking in the first place) and stopping smoking services, and services developed within primary care have demonstrated very successful outcomes.  There is a lot of work to be done still, and this will still be a priority for the Public Health department, which will move under the remit of the Local Council over the coming months.

 

-          (P) What role will the Consortium have in health promotion and education within schools? 

-          (GPCC) This will be the responsibility of the Local Council, who will be taking responsibility for all areas of Public Health such as this.  However, the Consortium will work closely with these teams to ensure that adequate services are in place for its patients.

 

-          (P) As GPs take on more responsibility for managing budgets, how will they be able to reconcile their roles as budget holder, and someone responsible for a patient’s care?

 

-          (GPCC) Each time that GP makes a referral, or writes a prescription, he / she is responsible for spending taxpayers’ money, and so is already mindful of the fact that resources must be managed appropriately.  There is no doubt that some difficult decisions will need to be made as we enter even tougher financial times, and GPs, in conjunction with their patients, will need to reach a balance between ensuring the right care, and accessible care, for their patients, whilst also ensuring that this care is cost-effective.  Above all else, the GP is responsible for a patient’s care and so commissioning clinically-effective, and clinically necessary, treatment will always be the highest priority.  As we move forward, all GPs must take responsibility for their practice budgets to ensure appropriate use of tax-payers’ money, and that there are sufficient resources to invest in the areas where it is most needed.

 

-          (P) The Consortium need to work more closely with the third sector to ensure that it is making the best use of all of the services available – some of which may come at no cost, or at a reduced cost.

 

-          (P) What will be the format of the quarterly Council meetings?  Would it be better to have a smaller, executive committee of the full Council to ensure that things move forward at a fast pace?

 

-          (GPCC) This is an excellent suggestion and one which we will definitely consider.  As yet, there are is no template for how patient groups will work alongside Consortia, which is fantastic as it gives us the opportunity to try different approaches and find the one which works best for us and for our patients.  We will discuss some different models with our other colleagues and bring these back to you.  It is important to note that we will have patient representation on our Executive Committee, who can act as a liaison point between the Executives and the Patient Council.

 

-          (P) This is a very radical change but one that will allow the GPs to be innovative and develop services that are truly in line with patients’ needs.   Practices have already been fund-holders in previous years and in my experience this has always been of great benefit to the patients.

 

-          (P) Access to GPs needs to improve as difficulties in getting an appointment may lead to more people going up to A&E at weekends

 

-          (GPCC) We have already seen much greater access to GP Practices over recent years, with the vast majority of practices offering late night / weekend appointments at least twice a week.  Complaints regarding access have also significantly reduced.  We need to review all services available, and promote the appropriate use of these services, as it may be that patients could be seen more appropriately in a walk-in centre by a nurse, or by a pharmacist, than by a GP.  Patient education will play a crucial role in helping to manage demand on GP services, which includes raising awareness about using NHS resources appropriately – for instance, tougher policies on patients that repeatedly fail to attend appointments that they have booked, without letting their practice know.

 

-          (P) The Appliances Service needs to be reviewed, as currently patients are waiting too long. 

 

-          (GPCC) This has already been flagged as a key priority for the GPCC.  This department should not necessarily be in a hospital setting, and must be much more responsive and accessible – we have earmarked this as one of the first services that we would like to see delivered in a different way.

 

-          (P) If GPs are taking on more management responsibilities, how will they still have time to see their patients, and how will GP Practices have the time to take on all these services that are being moved out of hospitals?

 

-          (GPCC) GP Practices will remain committed to patient access and ensuring that patients are able to see their GP / Practice Nurse in a timely and convenient way.  Also, not every service will be in every practice – clusters of practices may decide to develop a service between them

 

-          (P) Will the Consortium continue to commission services from Peninsula Health?  (patient relayed positive experiences of the Audiology and Rheumatology services – particularly with regard to short waiting times)

 

-          (GPCC) The Consortium will continue to seek to commission services that provide the best quality of care, the best level of accessibility, and the best value for money, for its patients.  Peninsula, along with all providers, would need to apply in order to be able to deliver a service on behalf of the Consortium, and any applications would be judged in a robust process.  As long as healthcare continues to be free at the point of delivery, and the service is considered to be the most appropriate for the patients that it will be used by, working with different providers should be welcomed – particularly as it extends the level of choice to patients.

 

-          (P) I prefer to go to my GP practice rather than go up to the hospital – which is often used for very inappropriate reasons rather than for the most serious of cases.  However, will the GPCC still work with the hospital staff when providing care in the community?

 

-          (GPCC) The GPCC has an excellent track record of developing community services in collaboration with hospital colleagues, and we will continue to do this.  Where it is appropriate, we will bring Consultants out of the hospital to do sessions within the community, to ensure that patients with the more complex needs, but who do not need to go up to the hospital, can still be properly managed.  This is already working well within many of the services that are commissioned locally, for instance ENT and Dermatology.

 

 

5.

Next Steps

 

We will write to all patients that have expressed an interest in the Patient Council, enclosing a copy of the minutes of this meeting, along with the presentation delivered by Dr Mantgani.  We will also be asking members to tell us a bit about themselves, in order that we may see where patients’ particular interests are, and get some feedback as to what patients would like to achieve out of being a Patient Council member.

We are in a very early stage and so it is difficult to know at this time how exactly we will start to use each meeting, and how exactly we will be asking patients to work with us.  The aim of this first meeting was to set the scene and give an idea of why listening to, and working with, our patients is so important.  We will need future meetings to be more focussed so that we can get the most out of this time, and an agenda will be circulated to all members in advance of the next meeting.  It is absolutely fantastic that so many patients have been able to attend and to contribute to the discussion and we hope that the group will continue to grow, so that we can ensure that as many of our practices are represented as possible.

 

6.

Date and Time of Next Meeting

The next meeting will take place on Wednesday 16th February 2010, 6.30pm, Birkenhead Medical Building.

 

 
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