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Wirral GPCC Patient Council Meeting
Wednesday 16th
February 2011, 6.30pm
Birkenhead Medical Building
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Agenda
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Welcome and Introductions
Interim
Chair, Eddy Shallcross, welcomed everyone to the meeting and thanked
such a large number for attending.
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Minutes from last
meeting
The minutes taken at
the last meeting of the Wirral GPCC Patient Council, held on 10th
December 2010, were agreed as a true and accurate record.
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Matters arising
111 Call Centres
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Following a recent headline in a national newspaper, there have been
queries around the implementation of a single point of access for all
appointments on the Wirral. Dr Mantgani explained that the Wirral will
not be a pilot site, as this scheme is not currently in line with the
ethos of this Consortium.
Pathfinder –
this
Consortium is one of 9 sites in the Northwest that has been approved as
a pathfinder. This means that we will be able to start influencing
policy and will be able to take on more responsibility prior to 2013.
Dr Mantgani, Dr Oates and Paul Edwards were recently invited to a
reception at Downing Street for Pathfinder Consortia, where the Prime
Minister was very positive about the opportunities that lay ahead. It
was very encouraging to note that this Consortium was the only one
present that had already developed a Consortium Patient Group – all
other Pathfinders were only in the very initial stages of developing a
group. Dr Mantgani confirmed that one of the ideas behind the Pathfinder
programme is to enable these groups to share good practice, and so this
Consortium will be able to benefit from learning in other areas.
It was explained
that the Wirral GPCC has no current plans to join with other Consortia,
but that we will work together on the Wirral where it is appropriate to
do so. Our patient demographics are different to other areas of the
Wirral, and we will need services that reflect what our patients need.
Portfolios –
Dr Mantgani thanked so many members for returning their portfolios.
There have been many common themes for areas to improve – access to
mental health, communication with patients between appointments etc. It
is important to bear in mind that some of the areas patients most want
to change are not in the hands of the Consortium to do so, for instance,
access to routine GP and Nurse appointments. However, any suggestions
and comments made at the Council can be fed back to GP colleagues and
the body that will in the future be responsible for GP Practices (this
will be the National Commissioning Board, and not GP Consortia). Dr
Mantgani explained that the local provider of counselling has been
served notice on its contract, which gives this Consortium the
opportunity to design the service that it wants from scratch, in line
with the needs of its patients. The decision to serve notice was taken
because the provider was not able to meet the terms of its contract, and
so patients were not receiving an adequate service. Patients will be
given opportunity to provide input into the development of the new
service.
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Consultation on the Public Health White
Paper
Fiona Johnstone,
Director of Public Health, gave a presentation on the government’s
proposals for the Public Health strategy. This presentation is enclosed
with these minutes. Key points are:
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Public Health will become part of the Local Authority and will have a
wide remit ranging from emergency planning, immunisation, health for 0 –
5 year olds and health promotion, such as stop smoking services
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There will be a Health and Wellbeing Board, which will be a statutory
body. This will be led by Local Councillors, Social Services, Consortia
and Healthwatch. These will not come into full force until 2013 but we
would like to implement this as soon as possible. This will monitor how
public money is being spent, and all will be accountable to this board.
The board will work with providers such as the 3rd sector.
GPs will be on the board to ensure that any decisions taken are in the
interest of Consortium patients as far as possible
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The funding for public health will be ringfenced within the Local
Authority until at least 2013.
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The Director of Public Health will provide professional leadership and
will be held accountable by the board. Fiona is a Wirral resident with
a passion to improve healthcare locally. Fiona will also be on the
Wirral GPCC Executive Board to ensure that anything that the GPCC
develops is in line with Public Health strategy – it is very important
that we work together to ensure no duplication.
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The board will be committed to reducing inequalities – this includes
those that have a learning or physical disability.
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The Board will be committed to openness and accountability
Patients may feed into
this consultation by going onto the NHS Wirral website. Fiona agreed to
explore putting the consultation documents into One Stop Shops for those
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Prescribing of Gluten-free Foods
Helen Dingle,
Prescribing Advisor, NHS Wirral explained the remit of Medicines
Management: help practices to stay within their prescribing budgets
(budgets have remained static whilst the cost of drugs has risen);
advise practices on medications that cost less, but are more effective;
help practices to identify patients that no longer need to be taking
certain medication, ie where there is wastage.
One area for savings
that has been identified is the prescription of gluten-free foods.
Patients that have Coeliac disease cannot tolerate gluten and can access
gluten-free foods on prescription. Currently around £250k is spent on
these foods on prescription per annum on Wirral (across around 500
patients), and the amount prescribed per patient varies enormously. NHS
Wirral is currently proposing to standardise the amount available per
patient, and to restrict the prescription of items such as pizza, cakes
and biscuits. The prescription of fresh loaves incurs a carriage fee of
£30 per delivery to pharmacies, and this charge is passed onto the
practice. It has been suggested that this money could be best spent
elsewhere. Medicines Management is out to consultation on the
following:
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stop prescription of fresh loaves
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restrict prescription of cakes, biscuits pizza to a standardised
level per patient
One patient
suggested that fresh loaves could just be obtained from the supermarket
rather than pharmacies, using a voucher system, to cut out the delivery
charge. Helen explained that this approach was taken in Northampton
PCT, where it required a significant administrative resource to manage.
However, Helen agreed that the PCT would look into this option.
Several queries were
raised in relation to medicines management and it was agreed that the
agenda of the next meeting would be dedicated to this topic.
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Commissioning of Homeopathy
Dr John Oates gave a brief presentation to the Patient Council Members
explaining that there was a requirement to consult with the community on
the recommendation by NHS Wirral PEC not to re-commission a contract for
homeopathic therapies. He explained that NHS Wirral have been able to
refer to a block contract with Liverpool NHS costing £37, 270, but that
this would no longer continue beyond the existing contract lifetime, ie
it wouldn’t be re-commissioned. This recommendation had been made
because there was overwhelming support by GPs on Wirral that this
therapy was not effective and that this was evidenced further by the BMA
who questioned the benefits of this therapy, citing that Homeopathy only
provided a ‘placebo’ effect. Abhi Mantgani at this point stated,
‘’£37,200 is a fly in the ointment compared to the overall budget, but
that its not a question of cost, it is a question of whether it was
effective’’. It was further suggested that the House of Commons had
challenged PCTs to look into the effectiveness of Homeopathy as they
felt the ‘placebo benefits’ were not effective enough to warrant
continued funding.
At this point there were a number of comments from the floor where
members of the Patient Council questioned this decision and personally
validated the effectiveness of Homeopathy with references to the
benefits some members of their family experienced. Dr Oates read out
various articles that he had researched which supported the case against
Homeopathy.
Although some patients requested figures on the total number of patients
that use this service, and the benefits to these patients, the
overwhelming support seemed to be to accept the recommendation not to
re-commission. Patients were advised that they can provide further
feedback through the NHS Wirral Have Your Say mechanism.
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Elections and
Future Meetings
It was discussed at
the last meeting that this Council will meet 3 – 4 times per year, but
that there will also be a Patient Council Executive Committee that meets
bi-monthly and is more of a decision-making group that sets the
direction for the Council, and is the direct link with the GPCC
Executive Board. There will be around 8 – 10 members on this group, and
Council members were asked to nominate themselves for these positions,
by completing an application form (this is attached). James Kay, Chair
of NHS Wirral, will support the Executive Board in selecting the Board
members.
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Any Other
Business
There was no other
business.
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Date and Time of
Next Meeting
The next meeting
will take place on Wednesday 4th May 2011, 6.30pm, Birkenhead
Medical Building. |
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